By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. And I don't think it's necessary for Joker to actually fight batman.
He could reignite a decades old movement with the original joker either dead or incarcerated. I bought my DC Comics this week from Piranha Comics in Kingston-Upon-Thames. But at this point, he still bets on his basic beliefs: the patience of the cautious man will run out at some time, because you can fight extremism of his scale only with extreme measures. Lives in South-West London, works from Blacks on Dean Street, shops at Piranha Comics. I definitely prefer the following video for a great analysis on the meaning, although not really a fan theory, http://youtu.be/Dqe_feNbPRY. This works beautifully, and as Joker predicts, Batman goes to Hong Kong to "Extradite" Lau. This could be applied to any story ever.
Not to mention he almost got the swat teams not only killed but almost got them to kill civilians. What you could normally overlook as crazy or some kind of vague anarchic idea just to fuck shit up is actually cynicism raised to a full blown ideology (as in "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message"). We also see in the trailers that Bruce Wayne is just a child at this point. But this Gordon, he's as honest as humans come.
But about the clapping, something struck me, I want to share it with you: In my perception, the Joker is still a cynic.
Jack Napier kills Bruce' parents, when he was a kid. This will be the Joker who Batman eventually fights. I think everyone should watch the movie again before praising this (very interesting) fan theory as FACT. The better person you are to start with, the more fucked up you will be when I'm done with you. The theory seems pretty solid and I love the provocation. AUG202575
Doesn't work with Harley's age, who's similarly aged to Selina and Ivy. Somewhere… nice. I always felt that the joker wanted to be the only game in town, but I like this theory better. He's still a fucking cynic with a sardonic smile: "Among the very ancient people of Sardinia (...) it was customary to kill old people. The gist of the ideology being: I will fuck you up so bad that you will have no choice but to share my disdain in the human race. Is he antiabortion as well? This just doesn't hold up. It wasn't because of Harvey, who died too soon to do any good, except as a martyr, and it wasn't because of Batman who was ostracized and treated like the criminal such a vigilante truly is for 8 years. The term is used in the United States to refer to a townhouse clad in this, or any of a number of aesthetically similar materials.
Going against /u/generalzee theory, that's what I find interesting with the Joker: Counterintuitively, he seems to be a cynic with a mission. With Thomas Wayne as one of the figureheads of Gotham's establishment, I think that the murder of the Waynes will be an indirect consequence of this movement. Sidenote I would have loved to just see the shadow of the Joker in jail seeing what was happening to Gotham on TV and hearing Heath Ledgers Joker … This breaks Batman psychologically, and also makes him a villain, a true villain, the kind that abandons his own principles. The city even tolerated a renegade vigilante who ran around wearing a rubber suit (Okay, special armor and carbon fiber, but they don't know that). Defund Batman indeed. But to me, when the actual Joker is realized; is he aware of the movement or so into himself to not feel like just another clown. Mark Hamil's joker always seemed to have a private army of goons for instance. This symbol of fear and unbridled vengeance, as Joker sees it, needs to be stopped, but not Killed. When we pick up in the next film we see a defeated Bruce Wayne who had retired 8 years prior. Which in turn could have given some credence to the story of the mob being the cause of his scars and initial driving point. He's the prototype of a good human being.
It also explains the incredibly number of absolutely insane normal people who somehow manage to go toe to toe with peak human Batman. The only time I believe that this has been contradicted was in the 1989 Batman film, where The Joker was a murderer prior to his transformation.
There's no way a 55-year old Joker could keep up physically with a Batman in his prime.
At this point we honestly just have 3 men battling for Gotham's "soul" (as Joker puts it), but Dent and Wayne are simply playing into Joker's greater plan. Was he ahead of the curve? I will turn you. He was much older than Bruce.
He is looking forward to the battle. Exhibit A: Harvey Dent.
Maybe not 60 years old, but 50 maybe? This is a place for fans of various creative works to share theories, interpretations and speculation related to that particular creative work.
I think the revolutionary joker justifies why the character would have a large amount of "henchmen," almost like the Adam West Batman, only in the real world. Everyone must realize that Joker, despite his claim otherwise, really was "The Man With The Plan" throughout the entire film. And presumable with a big basement to take the place of the Batcave. You can see it in Heath Ledgers smile, it gives me the creeps. He does sort of admit his whole goal is to make batman see you can accomplish more by fighting fire with fire than water. Have you ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right?" Perhaps the penultimate joke. The Joker was right. I believe that in the movie The Joker, Joaquin Phoenix's character will begin a huge social movement which will spiral out of control, bringing the corrupt and stagnant Gotham into a violent but equalizing upheaval. You've got me thinking about the boat situation.
The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Moving into Gotham City itself. To the point that Batman needs to change his approach. In the end Gotham is actually clean. He's going to need to change his base of operations. From what we see in the trailers for The Joker, Joaquin Phoenix's joker seems to be less of an evil murderous lunatic and more of a disruptive, revolution-causing agent of change. Author of The Flying Friar, Holed Up, The Avengefuls, Doctor Who: Room With A Deja Vu, The Many Murders Of Miss Cranbourne, Chase Variant. Sad, this theory was stolen from my instagram https://instagram.com/p/7BUMIslVsr/ oh well. As we saw at the beginning of the film, Batman was inspiring other vigilantes, and a society cannot stand when each man takes his own justice.
This even extends to Joker's threats to destroy a hospital.
Father of two. I don't know if Joker actually intended for Harvey to be so physically scarred by the explosion from which Batman saved him, but I am certain that he wanted Harvey to feel the full pain of Rachel's death, which is why he purposely tells Batman to go to the wrong address. But still, the Joker's a cynic to the last degree. he just wasn't given enough time. Oh, and for non-Americans, a "Brownstone" refers to a brown sandstone that was once a popular building material. The longest-serving digital news reporter in the world, since 1992.
Bleeding Cool has been reporting on what we have described as "Defund Batman" for a while now, a new approach within the DC Comics series to strip away Briuce Wayne's billions, his manor, his butler and everything that sets up above and apart from the people of Gotham, the very people he is meant to be serving and protecting. Also, it will be a decentralized movement similar to Anonymous, with no leader or organization. He wasn't in control of himself, but he could control everyone else. The key thing with Joker War was, basically, to set off a whole bunch of change in Gotham City and it's going to deeply affect the status quo. I mean his plan was to kill a boatload (if not two boatloads) of people in one night. Jack Nicholson's Joker aswell had many bois but in that case they worked for/with him before he was joker so idk if that counts.
He's going to need to change how he's interacting with crime in the city.
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