seagull 1963 real vs fake

A counterfeiting gang was destroyed, 7 suspects were caught, and about 800 finished fake watches were taken over, including about 20 cases of accessories.

Sea-Gull HK posted this once WUS about this: Recently,we received some complaints for the watch of 1963 from customer.They are in bad quality and we found out that they are not manufactured by our company.So we have to clearify that they are selling the forgery watch not real 1963.You can see the difference between both of them.Thomas was resigned from Tsinlien Sea Gull.If any question,you can contact to us at anytime. Reply Reply Author.

Since this is a product shot, I’m using the Kodak Elite Color color rendering and grain which adds a small amount of warmth to the image while keeping the color saturation correct. If I keep processing only old photos, I’ll never get ahead, so I thought I’d process some photos I took recently with four different cameras .

I would not buy this watch without the display case back, however. Would definitely recommend both Watch Unique and Thomas to anyone.

), Can say 19 zuan (jewel) or 21 zuan.

These are watches designed to resemble, broadly resemble, the original from 1963, they use parts manufactured by Sea-Gull (including, key, the movement), and they are produced by whomever Thomas can find to put them together.

To see that this is just a decorated version of the Venus cal. Approximately 1,400 were made in 1963. http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/2/18/the-seagull-1963-air-force-watch-an-affordable-tribute-to-a.html. (I suspect i… Picture.

When something lacks …, This website uses cookies. Many of the Sea gull websites they don't have any mention of the 1963 watch; d304 or otherwise (http://mall.seagullwatches.com/, http://www.seagullwatch.eu/, ) but another seagull store refers specifically to the D304 you mention but not the more common version that you see elsewhere (which was also reviewed on legitimate sites such as worn and wound.). I’ve heard that there are many quality issues with Seagull movements. For a mechanical, that isn’t bad. As always, close-focusing with a Leica is impossible, so you always capture it in its environment—in this case, my workstation at work. Both have delicately styled blued hands, but the seconds hand is more decorative than the minute counter. If you think it’s too small, you can buy easily purchase a bigger one, and no one is going to think the 38mm watch is too big. Both Thomas and Watch Unique gave me EXCELLENT customer service, I simply mailed the watch back and they repaired it and sent it back.

Crown can be unsigned, signed with a star, signed with the Sea-Gull logo, singed with the PLAAF logo.

For what it’s worth , if anyone is interested a MN DoR ST19 , my kids filled out and esigned a blank form here http://goo.gl/tzWbfU. The Seagull 1963 is one of the more intriguing watches to come out, or rather be re-released, in a little while.

It has a slightly antique feeling to it that suits the 60’s vintage well.

It is the sort of movement that is hypnotic to look at: reminding you of the brilliant intricacies that go into every mechanical watch. This may explain why it has a cult following here.

Besides, if I need to know what day it is, I’d look at my cell phone or the menu bar of my computer. They don't have their own factory. Between the weight from the mechanical movement and generally bulbous shape of the acrylic crystal and case-back, the watch has a definite arm presence, one that is increased by a NATO strap. Since the Rivetta is often said by others to resemble wood grain, I took out the most woody thing I owned (my portable Go set) and photographed it on that (taken on an Olympus E-PL3): Olympus E-PL3, Lumix G 20/F1.7 179 months. If you’re looking for a mechanical chronograph on a budget, the Seagull 1963 is a great option. I’ve always had a thing for cheap small dial analog mechanical watches since my first watch: a Timex Snoopy 1958 Tennis Mystery Dial in Denim that my grandmother bought me in Seoul Korea in 1978. Discussion. Ostensibly, the re-issue was to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the model, but there have been copies of this watch made a number of years before 2013 and continues to be made in small batch orders today. If you want one now you get it from Thomas. 1/15 sec @ f/2.2, iso 640, 4.15mm (35mm). I have been in love with this piece since I fist saw it a couple of years ago , fingers crossed . I am the highest bidder on one at the moment on eBay . Is both the 38mm and 42mm ones 'fakes'? Diopters tend to play funky with evaluative meters and so this image was overexposed by a half stop.

IIRC the 1963 reissue, at least the original 38 mm non-display back one, is a replica of the first chronograph fully made and designed in China. I chose to buy a Hirsch Rivetta in golden brown. It’s not a watch I’ll be wearing every day, so having a watch without the day or date makes things much easier to set when I forget to wind the watch.

This became the the ST-3 and later reworked into the ST-19 that is in the Seagull 1963.

So, the fact that the Seagull 1963, as an affordable and sexy watch, has made waves, should serve as lesson to the brand about how the bring a watch to the US market. Moving in, there are large golden hour markers, comprised of a mix of numerals and triangular markers. Think about it this way: this is basically a Swiss movement, just an obsolete design with Swiss-made tooling just manufactured in China. The Chinese gov't wanted a watch for the People's Liberation Army Air Force that was fully Chinese.

Well I don't know all the history of it, but the reason I am drawn to is is; Aesthetics - it doesn't really look like anything else, so it's quite unique and eye catching. This is a topic I think we’ll look into deeper for the site as it pertains so strongly to affordable watches and the watch world post ETA ebauche. Also if you like the watch I would say hunt down a 38mm acrylic version with the the cream color dial and solid caseback, that is the original configuration. (304 was 38mm as is mine. They’re all of the same subject so you can see how camera/lens choice affect composition and processing.

I put on a red leather strap which rather add character to it’s red army identity.

The main hour and minute hands are long and thin blued rectangles that are punctuated by the striking red of the chronograph seconds-counter. The Chinese versions are very, very different from the ones for export and are actually less like the original watches than the export model, because they reflect modern Chinese tastes.

However I paid a third of a typical aftermarket clasp, and a tenth of an luxury-brand OEM branded clasp, so when it fails I can just buy another or at least I’ve deferred the decision on what clasp to get.

Saturday 26th May 2012. That is quite rare these days. It seems like there is a healthy amount of evidence to suggest the watches are fake, but I haven't heard anything before this. Taking the rich but relatively obscure history of their own brand and bringing it to light via recreations, while establishing themselves as a quality and competitive watch manufacturer.

Here's one source on this (translated by Google) that covers what I've heard about it, but it's not exactly an authoritative source.

As I explained in the original article in great detail why all re-issues are either all fake or all authentic. Bought one of these beauties recently. How do I buy from him instead of another site like watchunique? The watch arrived a week later from halfway around the world.

Also if you look at the pictures on the 42mm version you can see that they just repurposed the hands from the smaller version and the minute hand doesn't even reach the chapter ring. Hopefully, it’ll last me a long time.

I’m not confident that this clasp will last long, even though it, like everything watch-related from China, has some over-the-top perlage etched into the grooves (you can just make it out in an earlier photo). Man, I really wish I would have searched on this before I bought mine. …There’s a lot of other variations but you get the idea. Thanks for the answers. The movement is still a Sea Gull though, but the whole case, dial, crystal etc are all illegitimate and not actually genuine pieces. (Note: you can save a bit much by contacting the importer, hked, directly on WatchUSeek.

The band did eventually arrive. If you buy from Thomas and the thing breaks, he'll fix it for you.

All of the details are exquisite and it has the seagull logo on the crown. Beyond that adjustment, the processing settings are taken from a DxO preset I use for macro with the vignetting center adjusted. This watch doesn’t imitate like those other Sea-Gull’s do, it instead tries to be a Chinese military watch, because that’s what it was.

Here it is after I just opened the box (taken with a Nikon D810): Nikon D810, Nikkor 24-80mm f/2.8G

Now it's going back! I would love one of these, but I worry about the reliability of the movement. From where I can buy an authentic Seagull 1963 time piece? I believe he now has his own company that does watch related things, and remains on good terms with Sea-Gull, and other factories.

But I am trying find a decent Nato or Zulu strap to replace the standard strap, could W&W advise where I could find a 17mm (as it seems 18mm is too big for this watch?) What is it with the bad bokeh that cam come from Voigtlander lenses?

Bahram, don’t ask this guy. As many others have mentioned, the mix of a silvered cream dial, Chinese and English text, gold-bordered red star logo, gold applied indices, chemically-blued hour, minute and subdial hands, and red chronograph seconds sounds like a nightmare but it actually works great.

I've heard this rumour on several watch forums over the past few months and was wondering if anyone has heard anything confirming / contradicting it.

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