Also, the .308W regularly kills brown bear in Colorado. Their downside is that they require longer barreled, heavier rifles and generate enormous recoil and muzzle blast. 308 Win vs 30-06 & 358 Win vs 35 Whelen 03-03-2010, 23:00. Jagen- Schiessen- Wiederladen, Die Hülsenform als Hilfe zur Kaliberauswahl. With the whelen and the 358....they both can push a 250 grainer, and they both have very mild load data in all the reloding manuals. I do have a 1:12 24" barrel so that helps some- to what extent I don't know. .45-70 Government, 300 grain at 1810 fps - MPBR 164 yards I believe that this is stated in the Lyman book. With bullet weights for deer-sized game, the .358 doesn't do nearly as bad as its reputation would lead you to believe. The trouble is, they didn’t sell. They are both great rounds and when loaded to their potential and very serious big game rifles. Remington continues to offer factory ammo, and its 200-grain factory load has a muzzle velocity of 2675 f.p.s., while the 250-grain load’s muzzle velocity is 2400 f.p.s.
At 300 yds., the .358 Norma impacts only 0.96" lower than the .300 Win. This is related to the rifle availability problem. During camp preparation I need to take my men into dense bamboo forests (elephant), take shortcuts through dark and dense riverine forests carrying heavy loads of bamboo or marula poles (10 yards encounters with elephant, hippo and buffalo). If you match the bullet to the game, this is one of the all-time great hunting cartridges.
in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. For hunting non dangerous antelope in Africa or their equivalent weight counterparts in the US both the 9.3x62 and the .35 Whelen are 100% effective performers - but so too is the 7x57 / .280 Rem / 7mm Rem Mag / .308W / 30-06 / .300Win Mag. So: impact momentum below 90 ft.lb/sec as the Whelen gives certainly creates a doubt - and like in aviation risk management where the threat level is high - "when there's a doubt there's no doubt". A barrel manufacturer like E.R. The huge mystery about the .358 Winchester is its incredible lack of popularity. Even the light .45-70 loads are in the vicinity of the .358 recoil, while the heavy loads far exceed it. Wie die .35 Whelen, die aus der .30-06 entstammt, basiert auch die .358 Winchester auf einer Patrone der Kalibergruppe .30, der .308 Winchester. We shall hopefully be able to stalk it unseen, side-on to 40 yards, wait for it to move the inside front leg sufficiently forward to expose the heart and then put the bullet into that organ with only one wide, almost overlapping thick rib in the way. The barrel is a full 22 inches, like it always should have been, but the foolish design with the huge “shark fin” front sight turned hunters off, and it was dropped. SAUM and .300 WSM, with their 180 grain bullets at a MV of 2960-2970 fps, have an optimum range of about 120 yards on 1000 pound animals. In fact, the .358 fits neatly between the standard .30 calibers and the grand old .45-70 and offers the best of both worlds. If you have an existing short action rifle that you can spare, a rebarrel job is a possible alternative. .308 Winchester, 180 grain bullet at 2620 fps The .35 Win., .35 Newton and .350 Griffin & Howe Mag.
Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 16, 2002. It is hardly fair to present the opinions of those owners of what it probably "could do" on the big stuff in Africa to draw fair comparisons.
Many hunters do not mind carrying long, heavy rifles and can endure heavy recoil and muzzle blast. The .308 is not usually considered a short range cartridge. Everybody found it so generally satisfactory that there wasn't anything to start a discussion.
It would be irrational to argue against their effectiveness.
Mit optimierten Laborierungen ist die Patrone für den Einsatz im Wald und an der Kirrung bestens geeignet. Vo 730m/s 250grs Geschoss, Eo 4316Joule aus 52cm Lauf. It’s a decent cartridge, but American hunters just won’t flock to it. With the 250-grain bullet, it’s better than the.30-06 on heavy game at close ranges. Hornady has a Superformance load with a 200-grain SP at 2910 f.p.s. It is a mystery to me. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. This is not slow hunting where I have the situation under control. Today the .35 caliber family, at least in North America, includes the .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. As the.308 Winchester is a shortened version of the.30-06, by the same token the.358 Win.
This caveat means that we may need to pass up on a number of buffalo until the suitable body position mentioned above can be achieved - when WE are the proactive party and not the buffalo.
Included in that have been a whole bunch of deer, hogs and a bear or two. The origins of the .35 Whelen are controversial even today. The various .300 magnums are prime examples. It will provide a maximum point blank range of 230 to 260 yards, which would be a long shot for me (and the great majority of hunters) under field conditions. Mag. The recent introduction of a Hornady LeverEvolution factory load for the .35 Remington has usefully improved its ballistics. In 1987 Remington made an honest cartridge out of the .35 Whelen.
eine Vo von 760m/s und eine Eo von 4237 Joule.
The quest for an acceptable .35 has inspired such impotent wastes as the .35 Winchester Self Loader, once labeled a candidate for the title: “World’s Most Useless Center-Fire Rifle Cartridge.”. With a 200-grain bullet at 2460 f.p.s., it is a heavy-hitter on whitetails.
There simply is no job for these two cartridges in Africa: the smaller calibres (.308" and 7mm) as mentioned earlier do the job 100% perfectly on all non dangerous antelope - and the Whelen appears to fall short to be generally proficient on Cape buffalo and elephant under average conditions.
The .358 Win. Let us look at some physical similarities and use the existing knowledge base of what works for the 9.3x62 Bock and what not, and extrapolate that to the 9.1 x 63 (Whelen), Bullet diameter.............9.30 mm (0.366 in), Neck diameter............. 9.91 mm (0.390 in), Shoulder diameter.....11.43 mm (0.450 in), Base diameter............12.10 mm (0.476 in), Rim diameter..............11.93 mm (0.470 in), Rim thickness..............11.30 mm (0.051 in), Case length..................62.00 mm (2.441 in), Overall length..............83.60 mm (3.291 in), Rifling twist..................1:350 mm (1-14"), Bullet diameter.............9.1 mm (0.358 in), Neck diameter............. 9.8 mm (0.385 in), Shoulder diameter.....11.20 mm (0.441 in), Base diameter............12.00 mm (0.472 in), Rim diameter..............12.00 mm (0.472 in), Case length..................63.30 mm (2.494 in), Overall length..............84.80 mm (3.340 in), Rifling twist..................1:406 mm (1-16"), Bullet weight Muzzle Velocity 100 yd Vel/Momentum, 250gr Interbond 2,600 ft/sec 2,360 / 84 ft.lb/sec, 286gr Solid 2,460 ft/sec 2,350 / 96 ft.lb/sec. He asked me how his 358 compared to the 35 Whelen. Damit wird eine große, von Wildart, Geschosskonzeption, Jagdzweck und jagdlichen Bedigungen abhängige Bandbreite abgedeckt. My .308W or 30-06 or 7x57 is more than capable already. Hier kann die volle Geschosspalette von 11,7 bis zu 16,2 Gramm schweren Geschossen genutzt werden. von Hornady und von Double Tap (FA. That is using W748 and the Speers. Loved by gun guys and rejected by the huddled masses, this is perhaps the most underappreciated cartridge of them all.
The .358 Win. Compare the Queen of the .35's, the .350 Remington Magnum--the original short (.308 length) magnum cartridge--with the new generation of short action magnums. The .357 Magnum revolver cartridge has also gained considerable popularity as a combination rifle/pistol cartridge and lever action rifles for the .357 Magnum sell pretty well. necked up to .35 caliber.
The .358 can be built as a short, handy rifle, unlike the .300 and .338 magnums. 220 or 225 grain bullets can be loaded to between 2400 and 2500 fps with several powders. The 600 Magnum suffered from a barrel that was too short at 18½ inches. The .356 Win. This means they tend to penetrate deeper given like construction. all were more powerful-and may have been excellent hunting cartridges-but they are gone; rejected by the shooting public and banished to the junk heap of obsolescence. The 9.3x62 has killed so many elephant, Cape buffalo, rhino, and the big cats that one could quote reports from old writings and from as recent as the last hunting season - that describe the exact same way it penetrated and killed whatever was hunted (mostly Cape buffalo). From all accounts its killing power is outstanding, far in excess of what would be expected from its modest case size or its paper ballistics. The .358 has a 200 - 300 ft. lb. Jon Wolfe has written an excellent review of this rifle that can be found on the Product Review Page of Guns and Shooting Online. It has been depicted over and over, both in magazines and reloading manuals, as a short range woods cartridge. This is comparable killing power to the long .375 H&H Magnum with a 300 grain bullet (ME 4331 ft. The majority of posters on rifle forums can learn from this sober viewpoint that Africa professionals had as was expressed by Taylor. Many writers have tried to bury it with the epitaph, "It's a fine little woods cartridge."
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